The Sum of War
The war is winding down and indeed the House of Heorot and their rebel rousing warriors have basically annihilated the Alliance of Fire. There is no doubt that the House of Heorot aka HoH is a lean, mean fighting machine… organized and masterfully managed by their leader, Queen AQelDroma, who has shown herself to be the TRUE queen of the city.
HoH, having slaughtered almost every last one of the Alliance of Fire aka AoF, originally had declared that the key target of the war was solely What The, and implied that it was her death that would be the culmination of this long and tedious war. Playing the card, that all of the Alliance of Fire protected her, as she hid in shadows…
Yet, upon the slaughter of What The, in a completely unrelated incident to the war’ The Unholy Alliance turned the cards. Sure the Unholy Alliance, made up of The Republic, The Ferrymen, The Hall of Rogues, The Enforcers of Enlightenment and The Sanctuary of Immortal Enlightenment, picked an inopportune time as well as a perfectly opportune time to kill What The.
Having quietly watched and waited as they allowed the HoH side to weaken What The to a level that would create for them an easy kill, The Unholy Alliance jumped in and zeroed her. Just as was the case with HoH jumping in to kill Es Beacy in the SIE/CoB war. The action had nothing to do with anyone one on either side of this war, but everything to do with The Unholy Alliance and the long time debt owed to many of them by What The.
Though their attack had absolutely had nothing to do with whatever it was that caused the House of Heorot and their warrior minions to be after What The, HoH… or at least some of their allies, felt the burning need to do whatever they could to steal some semblance of glory and attempt to make it look as if SIE and The Unholy Alliance crew were actually killing What The on their behalf.
To anyone that has paid even the slightest attention to this war, it would appear rather obvious that The Unholy Alliance have no reason to come to the aid of HoH. First of all, HoH has amassed plenty of warriors to fight under their flag and assist them in gaining the glory they so rightly deserve. Second of all, The Unholy Alliance has no REASON to support either side, being that is quite clear that they have built their own side, which is as big and powerful as either of the two fighting, so they have nothing to prove. Thirdly, is that it seems obvious that The Unholy Alliance wants nothing to do with either side and the pettiness that dwells there from days long past.
Well now, What The is dead, so the Unholy Alliance is happy, and now the HoH side demands that The Alliance of Fire renounce What The. This demand appears to be tactically a silly move. Being that the majority, or I may even have to say 99% of the AoF are certainly not going to turn tail and denounce anyone so close to the end and in so doing, rip the rug out from below the dead warriors that fought bravely for a cause. Especially now, that the death of What The did indeed NOT turn out to be the final result of this war.
No matter what anyone claims, this war was a long due grudge HoH has had against the old members of the Dark Alliance, from transgressions long passed, no matter what they say or do, it seems all the obvious to me. They DID indeed expose What The for the true self serving being they have always claimed her to be, so if that truly were the case in point, this war would have been complete long ago.
So what is the sum up of all of this?
A Myriad of blood, warriors, weapons and coins have been expended.
What The is dead. Thanks to the Unholy Alliance and thanks to the HoH crew for making it so easy for them.
All the members of the Alliance of Fire are soon to be dead. Good, it will be quiet now. But wait, it was quiet from them before…
House of Heorot are heroes amongst their own. But then again they have always been that.
Some of the smaller, less notorious clans involved in assisting HoH, are falling apart publicly.
The Church of Blood has a false sense of superiority that no one but them sees.
Every one has forgotten the Capadocians at all.
No final victory will be served, since it was demanded that What The be renounced and it is obvious that it will never occur.
All in all House of Heorot and AQel… great job. You are truly a force to be reckoned with and the city now knows and sees you as the super power you are… congrats and well fought
Comments
Moirai della Spada
That’s just foolish, we don’t claim to be the richest, biggest, or anything of the sort, we’re just in it because we love to fight. If we wanted some sort of ego trip, we would have probably wasted all our coins to necro, again, and again. But then, we’d have less HW to throw, and everyone knows, that’s where the heart of it lies. -Moirai
aqeldroma
Wow.
There are so many inaccuracies in this I have no idea how to debate them all. So I’ll just go after the largest:
A) There were far more than just the HoH fighting in this war, and there are far more than HoH that should get the credit for its results.
B) I haven’t declared myself Queen of anything but the Kingdom, and that is how it’ll stay. No one could ever step into Capadocious’s shoes, so I won’t attempt to try.
C) Maybe you’ve never been in a war, but it generally doesn’t end until the HWs on both sides stop flying.
-AQelDroma Queen of Heorot wife of Capadocious
Lord BubbleKnight
…a bit biased, for my taste, but interesting nonetheless.
Let’s see what happens next. As usual, since the first day I stepped in this City (way before it was an actual City), it has always surprised me.
Lord BubbleKnight Lord of the Orbenoir Dynasty Lovin’ husband to morganna :) Second in Command of the Capadocious Clan
RavynneNitewnd
Well as I recall you all did a lot of necroing, let’s not make it look like we didnt put up a hell of a fight cuz you know we did. And as far as the war being over? I do believe we are still fighting back so your false victory has no meaning. It’s not like you came in and stomped our butts, it took how many clans before even one TIC fell? Had it just been HOH against TIC I wonder what the outcome would have been, but I guess those days of war are over. Now it takes mass amounts of clans to zero one, and then not even fully.
Ghosty Ravynne The Inner Circle AOF Bound to lestat77 (RavynneNitewnd)
CBK
How exactly do you “stomp butts” of vampires who have been collecting blood and coins for nearly two full years without fighting in a single war? Of course you put up a good fight, that is what made this war interesting. Anything else would have been a big dissapointment.
Miranda Dawn
Well ‘some have a GREAT inventory of HW’etc~ so they can use their coins to necro again and again ,and its not considered a waste~ so they can STAY in the fight to HW again and again, just for the joy of it. (as both sides did) After all you need blood to toss a Vial smiles
spirit Miranda Dawn
Hesu
TiC was one of the first clans to make a habit of never fighting their own battles and always bringing their gazillion allies into the frey. Heck, it took the entire DA to kill one Shining Host.
Now you are telling me you will make fun of a clan using their allies to kill 4 or 5 other clans, when YOUR clan used a mega army of clans to kill ONE vampire? pffft…
You better go check your history since your defense only incriminates yourself and your clan.
Oh yes, wasnt TiC the clan that claimed victory by hiding in shadows from Cap, because they didnt like how he warred? rolls eyes
– Hesu Sanctuary of Immortal Enlightenment Enforcers of Enlightenment Training Ground Institute Childer of Roadie shadowsshades Yeah Lucius is my big bro..what about it?
Lord BubbleKnight
When TIC realized Caps will come back, no matter we were zeroed once and again… they didn’t hide because they wanted to save us from total carnage… they were paralyzed by fear of us attacking them till they have to necro once and again… they were afraid to fight against an army who doesn’t fear death.
Bye bye, What The. Rest well in your manor. There isn’t anything left for you out in the City.
Lord BubbleKnight Lord of the Orbenoir Dynasty Lovin’ husband to morganna :) Second in Command of the Capadocious Clan
RavynneNitewnd
pets It’s ok, we understand why you all hate us, you want to be us. It happens time and again, you see something that you will never be or have and you want to destroy it, it’s only natural. So you all banded together to try to destroy the thing that made you look weak. yawns Such a “victory” that is, it proves nothing more then you had more numbers then we did… and why did you have so many numbers? Fear. No one dared take on TIC alone… you seem to forget, the clans were already together and attacking us. We didn’t bring in other clans, AQD did.
We actually pity you if you think you have beaten us, this is far from over. Rejoice in your false security for the time being. We will watch you all turn on each other and laugh.
Had you come alone, it may have been an honest battle… oh wait I forgot you never do anything honest or alone. laughs
Ghosty Ravynne The Inner Circle AOF Bound to lestat77 (RavynneNitewnd)
CBK
Lets see…. 1) You are all dead and we are not. 2) What The hid in the shadows like a coward and was STILL zeroed, while in those shadows. - I am not taking credit for that, but it did happen. 3) By making some of your comments you are indirectly insulting your allies who have fought every day to defend your leader (I assume), unlike many of your warriors who are only attacking now to save face. And… I’m not sure if you bothered to read anything that Hesu had said, so I’d suggest you go back and take a look at it. So you just keep patting yourself on the back if it makes you feel better. ;)
evilive
First of all, it seems sad to me that such an amazing and incredible force as The Unholy Alliance had to wait for HoH & their allies to leave them “an easy kill”. Since it can’t be a show of weakness, then I guess it’s a show of lazyness? HoH having done that before with Es Beacy does not justify it, kinda the opposite. About having nothing to prove? Well, out of respect (and I really mean it), I think there’s not much The Unholy Alliance has proved til today, first of all ‘cos they’re kinda new as an Alliance, and second because with the exception of SIE taking CoB down last year, there has not been much more heard about any of their members (clans) alone (and please don’t bring the long History of The Ferrymen into the table, we all know that we can hardly find in there 2 or 3 vampires who were part of those Ferrymen)
About HoH now “changing” the goal of this War, well they did it when they “protected” Cerridwen and their refugee got zeroed anyway… why wouldn’t they do it now? It shows their capability to adapt to new situations :P
As well as in the light of other articles of this paper I congratulated both sides of this War for having fought finally leaving aside all those speculations about “oh if we fight we’ll be weakened and those not fighting will easily take us down later”, now I congratulate AQD and HoH for finally having won one - valuable - War bows OK, maybe the War is not won yet… Then for achieving their - first - goal
evilive_inc Proud Father of Gman, Fates & thorn Em’s Forever Once a Viking, Always a Viking
RavynneNitewnd
1) You are all dead and we are not.
Um not all, and you were pretty much all dead at one time… remember?
2) What The hid in the shadows like a coward and was STILL zeroed, while in those shadows. - I am not taking credit for that, but it did happen.
Ha! If you only knew… if only. I would love to explain it sometime but I doubt your little mind could grasp such a concept. What The did not hide, I will say that much and no more. If you knew her, you would know that is completely inaccurate. Unfortunate for us Hesu’s jumped in when they did… oh but didn’t they kill you also?
3) By making some of your comments you are indirectly insulting your allies who have fought every day to defend your leader (I assume), unlike many of your warriors who are only attacking now to save face.
Well that statement conflicts with the first one if we are all dead like you said…
Now you are trying to start trouble on our side? Think you guys better take care of your own public arguments before you go worrying about us. I didn’t say anything to insult our allies, fact was you wanted TIC and WT, plain and simple. Your side attacked first with how many clans? Of course our friends jumped in, to try to make the battle a little more even.
And yes I did read Hesu’s post, but just cuz she says it, dont mean it’s gospel. Pfft. Sweep your own doorstep before you go pointing fingers at us. How many got deleted? How many lost powers? Hmm… that is a whole other story there, isn’t it? ;) One no one wants to talk about, right? </strong>
Ghosty Ravynne The Inner Circle AOF Bound to lestat77 (RavynneNitewnd)
CBK
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You are right, I apologize. Not all of you are dead. The ones who remain are in shadows. When and if they decide to leave those shadows and attack, they’ll be dead as well.
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You don’t have to explain anything to me. Anybody who has paid any attention to this war has seen that What The had spent half of her time in shadows while those around her have died. Hell, she was in the shadows the whole day before she was zeroed. And yes they did kill me, what’s your point?
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I am not trying to start any trouble, your leader already took care of that. That is a fact, whether you want to believe it or not.
How many got deleted or lost powers is of no concern to me and once again does not relate to the topic in any way. If you’d like to talk about it, you can do so with those involved.
And lastly, what Hesu said is true and anybody can verify the facts of that in the archives of RBC Hall. But if you’d like to ignore this as well that’s fine, as they say ignorance is bliss.
Hesu
Dearest evilive,
I feel that I should really take heed to your suggestions. With your clan shining as an example of what comes when one just lives to fight with no care for your members or plans for the future. A gracious and nobel way to be.
I fear it would be a dire mistake for me not to follow in your foot steps, just in hope, that one day my clans can be as great and smooth running as yours…
Wait… you dont have a clan.
Utter disinterest, lack of motivation, lack of planning and conflict beween mega ego’s caused it to fold. Yes a shining example of what your advice may bring…
By the way, I am quite sure, this is not the case for HoH… for they are still here, which would indicate a great deal of planning for the future as well as efficient organizing and an old world work ethic.
Advise away though evii, we wait with baited breathe for your glimmering snippets of “enlightenment”
– Hesu Sanctuary of Immortal Enlightenment Enforcers of Enlightenment Training Ground Institute Childer of Roadie shadowsshades Lucius- from brother to childer in 30 seconds…
evilive
Hesu… I can’t see in my whole statement a single place where I threw any kind of advice to anyone… I just voiced my opinion, of which by your intended-to-be-ironic words I can guess you didn’t like much… It’s amazing how I feel the need to tell you the same thing I “said” to AQelDroma (not that I see you two in any way similar, Satan save us) not long ago in this paper (OOC: The “” around the said are because in a paper readers do not write their opinions, so it’s not technically a “saying” but, hey, it’s there…) : You’re right, I don’t have a Clan of mine, as I never had, nor never will, ‘cos I never owned a Clan: I was just lucky enough as to share the same home with some formidable vampires, of which your husband is a very good example, and others not so formidable, of which Doom is sadly a good example… I still can’t see the reasons for your answer since I didn’t criticize nor question “your” Clan in any way. How could I, since I can’t know much about it, because I’m in the outside of its walls? I’d never be as vane as to pretend I know anything about Clans-I’ve-never-been-a-part-of inner stuff, be it birth, life, or demise, like sadly others do… It’s also touching to see how my opinion, of which you several times spoke well of, turns to be almost laughable, for the single fact that the words that formed it this time, are not of your like maybe… About who is around and who’s not… A stone can “be around” for way more time than a flame… but the flame sparkles ;)
With the same respect that made me voice my opinion before:
evilive_inc Proud Father of Gman, Fates & thorn Em’s Forever Once a Viking, Always a Viking (Who does not pretend to enlighten anyone, not even in his Titles and stuff)
PT Fang
Although I’d prefer not to even write a letter to the editor while in torpor, I don’t think I can let this stuff go by. To your first point, of “bringing their gazillion allies into the frey. Heck, it took the entire DA to kill one Shining Host. ‘
TIC was actually in a support role in that war. It was never ‘the temple vs. TIC’. Shining Host and most of TIC didn’t even frequent the same halls. Also, although I can’t swear it isn’t true, if Shining Host was THE target of the war, its news to me.
As for your second point, that we ‘claimed victory by hiding in shadows from Cap, because they didnt like how he warred’, let me point out a few things.
After we had been fighting this war for a couple of weeks, we had zeroed 26 Caps. They had zeroed none of us. That’s right, not one. Sometime after we had zeroed like 24 of them, it seemed that he had stopped even trying to win this war. He was no longer sending warriors to fight us. He was sending pests, newbs or alts, never could figure out which, whose purpose was not so much to inflict damage, but to drain our resources by our having to kill them. I rather hope it was alts because it sickens me that he advertises that he’ll teach young vampires how to become powerful and instead uses them as decoys and targets. But I really can’t be sure.
Did we ‘declare victory’? Absolutely. Did we have the right to? It’s a matter of opinion, I suppose. But if you don’t have the right to declare victory after you’ve zeroed 26 to your opponents none, when do you have the right?
The ghostly spirit of PT Fang
ophelia
Just a few off the comments because I can and in no particular order
1) All this talk of one on one wars; that is a fantasy in a fantastic city. The simple fact is that allies are essential to war and if the opposing side has more to aid in their cause or more coins or whatever…great. That is simply how these things work most of the time. You utilize what you have.
2) EoE stepping in and killing What The: I find nothing wrong with it, and frankly it made me snicker when my mouth wasn’t hanging open out of surprise (watching someone come in and take down what was previously thought to be a ‘prime’ kill, though now it is claimed otherwise)
So someone else brought her low before hand, and they took all of what..five minutes to finish her in shadows or something like that. That in itself is impressive. If anyone finds it THAT distasteful, I imagine they can take it up with EoE. Just please, give me advance notice so I can steal a lawn chair and watch someone get their asses kicked :P Perhaps instead of taking up verbal arms against Hesu and/or EoE in general, one should put aside any personnal disregard for the parties involved and call it what it is. A sheer stroke of unexpected genius.
3)The necro is there for a reason, and we all use it.
4) HoH put up a GREAT fight…but it was the members of err…whatever they are now…DoA, Hells Angels, something..that was a wee bit impressive.
5) We might all have ended up in torpor, but no one can say that it wasn’t a hell of a fight to get there.
meanders off
ophelia Lokason NiF’s Eternally Yggdrasil Alliance of Fire
setitevampyr
I am actually stepping out of the shadows to say this because I am so disappointed by the sheer idiocy of your words. The war was a well fought battle, on both sides. It was also a fair battle, you make yourself appear like a child with your immature insults and incapability to acknowledge this.
On a more positive note, I would like to commend… most of the warriors I met on the battlefield. It was a pleasure to cross weapons with you. ;)
… Oh.. and where’s my flower ophelia? You can’t have been entertaining Nif this long. :P
setitevampyr High Council of the House of Heorot Ambassador Childe of Pandrora Lover of Oneirus Sister to… many
Brutus
I sense some hostility coming from you as usually comes from the losers of a war. You have every right to resent us, for it was us that killed you, but lets be honest you made it easy for us, as a matter of fact you picked the warrior that you wanted to zero you and then you moved for us and allowed us the kill. What honor is there in that? Not that we didn’t appreciate it, but if it was me you are going to have to kill me honestly, I will not help you in the least bit.
“Well as I recall you all did a lot of necroing, let’s not make it look like we didnt put up a hell of a fight cuz you know we did.”
Yes we did necro, point being that many of you had 30 to 40 k in bps, which means you didn’t have to necro until we drained your blood, but in fact, we did drain your blood and killed more then twice the amount of warriors that you did. At one point it was 20 to 8 in your favor and what was the last count 50 to 22 in our favor. So lets see that means we killed 42 while you killed 2 of us. Sounds like an ass whupping to me.
“It’s ok, we understand why you all hate us, you want to be us.”
No Darlin, We do not want to be you, not in the least bit. I do respect plenty of the warriors we faced, they fought well and deserve our respect, but then there are those like your bound partner, lestatt77, who is a coward and hid in the shadows for weeks and weeks, at least you went out fighting. For those, I have no respect.
“We actually pity you if you think you have beaten us, this is far from over”
I tend to think it is over now, but we will wait and see if you have any life left in you, I actually hope so, bring your old man out with you if you would.
Brutus House of The Hells Angels